Oral History Interviews

Audio & Video/Class Projects

50th Anniversary National 50 Mile Championship – Rocklin CA

Perhaps the Greatest Ultramarathon Race Ever in the United States (October 18, 1970)

Zoom Conference Call – December 3, 2020

The call is dedicated to these running pioneers:
Bob Carmen, Ted Corbitt, Jim McDonagh, Dr. John Pagliano, Paul Reese, and Ken Young

Here are the presentation times for each participant during the two hour call:

Gary Corbitt: Introduction
Andy Milroy: 4:11 – 18:36
Bob Deines: 18:37 – 38:33
Skip Houk: 38:34 – 51:20
Jose Cortez: 51:21 – 1:10:17
Randy Lawson: 1:10:18 – 1:21:23
Bryan Gieser: 1:21:23 – 1:23:30
Dave Waco: 1:23:31 - 1:27:52
Tom Derderian: 1:27:53 – 1:29:42
Jeff Kroot – Tom Derderian – Bob Deines: 1:29:43 – 1:36:45
Nick Marshall: 1:36:46 – 1:40:21
Jack Leydig – Pete League: 1:40:22 – 1:43:27
Darryl Beardall: 1:43:28 – 1:59:18

50th Anniversary Rocklin Call Participants:

Darryl Beardall:

Third place finisher in 1970. Has over 300,000 lifetime running miles including over 200 marathons. He was a four time U.S. Olympic trial participant. Darryl continues to workout and race when possible with a walker. Marathon best of 2:28.

Bob Deines:

Winner of the 1970 race in an American record. One of the leading advocates of using the LSD Long Slow Distance training approach. Fourth place finisher at the 1968 Olympic Marathon trial race. Marathon best of 2:20.

Bryan Gieser:

9th place finisher and a member of the winning Redwood City Strider championship team. Was an 18 year old teenager in 1970. Marathon best of 2:24.

Rich Innamorato:

Runner and legendary ultramarathon race director in the New York area. Founder and longtime leader of the Broadway Ultra Society (BUS). In 1976 he ran from Maine to Florida.

Randy Lawson:

8th place finishers and a member of the Redwood City Strider championship team. Was an 18 year old teenager in 1970. Marathon best of 2:29.

Jack Leydig:

1970 race participants. Legendary west coast race organizer with the West Valley Track Club. Founder and longtime editor of the NorCal Running Review. 2:25 marathon best.

Nick Marshall:

Inducted into the American Ultrarunning Hall of Fame in 2017. A master historian and record keeper of ultramarathon statistics. He broke 6 hours for 50 miles on both the track and roads along with many other running accomplishments.

Jose Cortez:

Fourth place finisher in 1970 and led the championship Redwood City Striders team. Former age group world record holder at the marathon and American record holder for 100 miles in 1971. Marathon best of 2:21.

Tom Derderian:

1970 race participant. Boston Marathon historian, and long time coach of the Greater Boston Track Club. A pioneer New England leader with USATF affairs. Marathon best of 2:19.

Mike Fanelli:

Master Historian of Track & Field and Long Distance Running. Former coach, agent, race announcer, color commentator, and running shoe store owner. Marathon best of 2:25.

Skip Houk:

Second place finisher in 1970. 1968 winner of this race and former American record holder at 50 miles. Won this national championship race in 1971. Marathon best of 2:22.

Jeff Kroot:

An advocate for the LSD Long Slow Distance training approach. A photographer for many of the famous running events on the west coast including this race.

Pete League:

1970 race participant. Long Distance Running Pioneer and first generation road race measurement course certifier. The founder of the Houston Marathon.

Andy Milroy:

Global road running historian, writer, and statistician. One of the founding members of The Association of Road Racing Statisticians (ARRS).

Dave Waco:

1970 race participant. Third place finisher in the 1969 AAU National Marathon Championship at Culver City. An early road running course measurer. Marathon best of 2:29.

Women Running Pioneers Conference Call Panel

Dedicated to Lyn Carmen (1936-2014) – A Role Model
June 26, 2014

These nine women were part of group of pioneers who competed and fought for women’s equality in running in the 1950s and early 1960s. Throughout most of the 1950s the longest distance United States women could officially race was 220 yards.

Here are the presentation times for each panelist for this nearly three hour call.

Gary Corbitt – Introduction
4:22: Merry Lepper – Completed the Culver City Marathon in 1963 in 3:37.
13:28: Chris McKenzie – First female to run longer than 220 yards in U.S. competition. First women to run up Mount Washington and competed in the historic 1961 Manchester Road Race.
29:11: Grace Butcher – Fought the AAU to allow 440 yards and 880 yards competition for women.
Indoor 880 National Champion (1958-60), Outdoor 880 Champion – 1959, American Record Holder
48:10: Julia Chase Brand – The Rosa Parks of Women’s Long Distance Running. Finished in the historic Manchester Road Race in 1961.
1:01:33: Roberta Bobbi Gibb – Three time winner of the Boston Marathon (1966 – 1968). First women to run the Boston Marathon.
1:25:40: Sara Mae Berman – Three time winner of the Boston Marathon (1969 - 1971).
1:50:20: Doris Brown Heritage – Two time Olympian (1968 & 1972) and five times International Cross-County Champion (1967 – 1971).
2:15:49: Judy Shapiro Ikenberry – National champion in both the marathon (1974) and 50 miles in 1977.
2:32:20: Arlene Pieper Stine – Completed the Pikes Peak Marathon in 1959.


Donna Gookin – Pioneer runner – competed in 40 marathons and five 50 mile ultramarathons.
Joan Ullyot, MD – Pioneer runner and author -marathon best 2:47 at age 48.

Women Running Pioneers of Ultramarathonsce

Conference Call Panel - Part 1
July 23, 2015

This is the first of a series of call to honor the early women pioneers of ultramarathon running.

Here are the presentation times for each panelist:

Gary Corbitt – Introduction
1:08 - Donna Gookin – First marathon in 1971
18:56 – Lou Peyton – Original organizer Arkansas Travellers 100
33:41 – Suzi Cope – First female to complete The Grand Slam
48:06 – Ann Trason – 14 time winner of the Western States 100
1:10:48 – Chrissy Ferguson – First Place USA Team member 1995 IAU 100K World Championship
1:22:55 – Discussion about the future of the sport.


Sara Mae Berman – Three time Boston Marathon winner 1969-71
Vince Chiappetta – Pioneer runner and one of our sports “Founding Fathers”
Scott Ludwig – Author & President Darkside Running Club
Jackie Mansky – MA Candidate – Columbia Journalism School
Suzuko Morikawa – Associate Professor of History – Chicago State University


Ted Corbitt & Aida Keshishian Price - WPIX – Channel 11 - New York newscast

New York Road Runners Tribute to Ted Corbitt, December 2007

My mother Aida Keshishian Price is in the video clip, walking and talking with your father, and then speaking about him at the end.  He had been her physical therapist 40 years earlier.

Ted Corbitt had become my mother’s physical therapist in 1954 at the International Center for the Disabled (ICD) when she was 17 years old.  She had just lost most of her left leg to bone cancer, and had a 5% chance of surviving that cancer for only two years (surgery was the only option then, and she mentioned that two young men who had similar amputations due to cancer around the same time both died within two years), and so she began going to ICD.

Your father came to my mother at what had to be one of the lowest points in her life, encouraged her without end, and taught her to walk unbelievably well both on crutches and with prosthesis.  She wound up walking with crutches most of the time, as in the video, because she felt it was faster and easier in many ways.  It was really something to experience her on crutches; she walked most two-legged people into the ground and your father had much to do with that.

-  Susan Price

Women Running Pioneers of Ultramarathons

Conference Call Panel - Part 2
Dedicated to Ruth Anderson (1929 – 2016)
March 18, 2016

This is the second of a series of calls to honor the early women pioneers of ultramarathon running.

Here are the presentation times for each panelist:

Gary Corbitt – Introduction
2:20 – Memories of Ruth Anderson
8:20 – Eileen Waters Connolly (1945 – 2016) 50 Mile World Record-Holder - 1973
25:10 – Marge Hickman – 16 time finisher of the Leadville Trail – 100 Miler, Champion 1985, second place finishes 4 times
44:50 – Randi Bromka Young – 1987 Leadville Trail – 100 Miler Champion - 1987
1:12:30 – Discussion about the state of the sport.


Lou Peyton – Original organizer Arkansas Travellers 100
Ann Trason – 14 time winner of the Western States 100

1967 Holyoke Marathon History

Conference Call Panel
June 15, 2016

This race was given the name of “The Torture in the Holyoke Tropics.” It was a national championship race with the winner making the Pan American team. All the top runners were there in 90 degree heat and humidity with a 1p start time. Ron Daws won and Jim McDonagh placed 2nd.

Here are the presentation times for each panelist:

Gary Corbitt – Introduction
3:40 - Larry Berman – New England Marathon Champion, Pioneer Runner & Administrator
21:04 - Vince Chiappetta – Pioneer Runner & Administrator - Former President New York Road Runners
39:42 - Mike Reif – Coach Genesee Valley Harriers Running Club, Running Boston in 2017 celebrating his 50th Anniversary of his first Boston Marathon
64:15 - Ed Winrow – Three time U.S. champion & Coach Valparaiso University
72:05 - Reflections on the sport of long distance running in the 1960s


John Booras – Boston Athletic Association (BAA) Holyoke Marathon Champion
Hal Higdon – University of Chicago Track Club (UCTC), Pioneer Athlete, Journalist, Administrator
Pete League – Middle Atlantic Area Running & Pioneer in Course Measurement

1964 Yonkers Marathon History

Conference Call Panel
June 8, 2016

Buddy Edelen’s 2:24:25 was one the greatest performances ever in marathoning history. When couple the 12n start, 91 degree temperatures and humidity, along with Edelen winning by a 3.5 mile margin made this race day legendary. Also at stake was the winner making the Olympic team.

Here are the presentation times for each panelist:

Gary Corbitt – Introduction
4:00 - Abe Assa – Millrose AA, 2:40 Marathoner
24:25 - Jim Green – Boston Athletic Association (BAA), 1960 3rd place at Boston
45:20 - Hal Higdon – University of Chicago Track Club (UCTC), Pioneer Athlete, Journalist, Administrator
63:33 - Dick Weis – Coach: Gaelic American A.C.
83:00 – Reflections on the sport of long distance running in the 1960s


George Brose – Athlete, blogger of Track & Field History of the 1950s and 1960s
John Garlepp – Millrose AA Coach & Running Pioneer
Pete League – Middle Atlantic Area Running & Pioneer in Course Measurement


Pioneers in Course Measurement

Conference Call – May 23, 2014

Call participants and time of their discussion:

Gary Corbitt - Intro
John Booras - 5:45
Ken Young - 12:19
Alan & Clain Jones - 24:53
David Katz - 36:35
1981 New York City Marathon  - 43:50
Josh Nemzer - 53:45
Pete Riegel - 55:44
Roy Pirrung - 1:07:40
Closing Remarks - 1:11:30

January 2012 Conference Call with Bernard Gomersall

Ultramarathon Running History Conference Call January 5, 2012

Introduction – Gary Corbitt
8:00 – Bernard Gomersall
32:15 – The first U.S. 50 Mile Championship – 1966
John Garlepp
John Chodes
39:00 – Hydration Issues in the 1950s and 1960s
Bernard Gomersall
John Garlepp
Paul Fletcher
45:36 – Women’s Entry into the Sport
48:20 – U.S. 50 Mile Championship – Rocklin CA- 1970
Bob Deines
58:00 – Millrose AA 1976 London-to-Brighton Team Victory
John Garlepp
63:00 – Park Barner first meeting of Ted Corbitt in 1972
Paul Fletcher
Park Barner
72:00 – Running Shoes - Diet
Bernard Gomersall
83:10 – Central Park Track Club London-to Brighton Team Victory – 1980
Fritz Mueller
86:50 - Who were your running influences?
Bernard Gomersall
Neil Weygandt
Ray Krolewicz
John Garlepp
Fritz Mueller
Paul Fletcher
Bob Deines
Phil McCarthy
99:10- What if anything would you do different in your running career?
Bernard Gomersall
Neil Weygandt
Ray Krolewicz
Paul Fletcher
Park Barner
Bob Deines
1:45:15 Closing Thoughts – Bernard Gomersall

Class Projects

Jean Arlt - High School History Class Project

May 2005
The assignment was to write about someone who embodied the American spirit for a U.S. history class. When Jean presented the paper, she asked a classmate to assist her by performing jumping jacks alongside her as she made her 10-minute presentation, to try to illustrate, in a way her classmates might understand how much endurance would be required to perform as Ted Corbitt did.

Justin Best - 6th Grade African American History Project

My 12 year old Son had to do an African American history project recently. He had to choose a person and create a board displaying pictures, a biography, a poem, a monologue, and a made-up interview of that person. I have the book First Marathons and was inspired by your Dad's story in that book. I had my Son read it and he was inspired as well and chose your Dad for his project. My Son is a runner and he just did his first half-marathon. Every 6th grader had to do a tri-fold board so there were about 75 boards lined up outside in the halls of the school. Justin was proud that his teacher put his board of Ted right by the office which is the first thing you see when you come into the school. He got an A on his board!

- Rae Best